HRTs won’t be allowed to start

Karthikeyan eventually got out, but it was all in vain

The FIA Stewards have declined to give HRT dispensation to allow Tonio Liuzzi and Narain Karthikeyan to start in Australia after they failed to meet the 107% requirement, in accordance with Article 36.3.

After barely appearing on track at all in practice the cars actually ran without too many problems in Q1, and Liuzzi was only 2.1s off Jerome d’Ambrosio’s Virgin.

The FIA Stewards do have the option to waive the rule in ‘exceptional circumstances,’ but that wasn’t the case here.

Asked by this blog to clarify the new rule, the FIA’s Charlie Whiting said: “The 107% is a maximum, there’s no tolerance around that 107%. If you’re out you’re out. However there is provision in the rule for the stewards to allow a car in under exceptional circumstances, which could include setting a good time in a previous session, or if there were changeable weather conditions that clearly disadvantaged some cars that couldn’t get out at the beginning when it was dry.

“Those sorts of things, or generally speaking if a car’s done a good time in P3 for example, and has a mechanical problem and can’t do a clear lap. We’ve seen it all before. Then the stewards are probably likely to allow the car to start. I personally don’t believe it’s the case with HRT, but it’s a matter for the stewards.”

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12 responses to “HRTs won’t be allowed to start

  1. Paul Ebbens

    Tata to HRT

  2. Rafael

    So what happens to HRT’s car now?
    Surely, not being able to run for a the extra few qually’s and the race will mean they will have just 15mins worth of data from the car. How in the world will they be able to get the 2.1 secs off the virgins from litterally no running until Malaysia?

    Surely some rule should allow them to have a couple of hours worth of testing, just to give them a chance of taking part in at least 1 of the 19 GPs lined up this season.

    • Stone the crows

      That’s the brutal nature of Formula One, this is the big league not carting; and if you don’t have what it takes to compete with the rest you go home. I was hoping they’d do a bit better this year but so far it has been worse than 2010.
      If the teams weren’t inclined to allow Ferrari any extra test time to acclimate a drive replacement for Felipe Massa in 2009, I doubt they’ll have any pity on HRT. Given how close a thing it is that they’ve gotten on the track at all, I suspect most teams consider HRT a hazard.
      The bitterest pill perhaps for HRT is that last year at Melbourne Bruno Senna ran in Q1 with a time of 1.30.526. Perhaps they should have updated the F110 and gotten some good testing time in with their drivers.

      • 4u1e

        “Perhaps they should have updated the F110”

        Isn’t that what the F111 is? Same core structure, new Williams rear end, some suspension updates, but still with last year’s front wing.

        That natty new paint job does tend to disguise the similarity, though.

    • Stone the crows

      No, actually it is a new chassis, pretty much new everything with the exception of the Cosworth engine and standard components such as the ECU. They are using last year’s nose because the F111 nose did not pass crash tests. That is probably what hindered them the most this weekend.

      • 4u1e

        I’m suspicious as to why last year’s nose would fit this year’s chassis unless it’s actually the same structure….

        It may be ‘new’ (i.e. not previously used), but it does look remarkably similar to last year’s.

      • Stone the crows

        According to Colin Kolles “The underbody is new, the gearbox new, suspension new, uprights new, rear wing new, engine cover, sidepods new, air intake new, monocoque is new homologation and new spec, nosebox new, front wing new, uprights and front suspension new, dampers new, electronics new. Yes it is something of a fine line when it comes to the monocoque. There must be a new spec new homologation of course as the side impact panels are new reg for 2011. The F111 and F110 roll over structures are identical as the F111 retains the top half of the Dallara chassis. This also means that the front suspension layout is also carried over from the F110. I guess if we’re going to have an argument that ‘based upon’ means ‘same’ then there are a few other cars in the paddock that are also the same as last year.
        The straw the broke the camel’s back for HRT at Melbourne is that the car was designed around the new 2011 front wing, so so it’s been a real uphill struggle for them to get the car ready as it is but then to have to fit a nose that wasn’t intended and make it work with the rest of the aero package that it wasn’t designed for and not have a complete disaster is quite a job indeed. I suspect that it wasn’t a matter of swapping nose boxes and calling it good.

  3. Kedharf1

    Liuzzi did an amazing job … and so did Narain, on soft tyres he on target to beat Liuzzi’s time but in the 2nd last corner he heavily locked up and couldn’t improve.

    Remember that last year HRT were in the same position with Karun qualifying 10 seconds off the pace. They bounced back the next weekend and Karun finished the raced and qualified within 107%. We can expect better this year.

    • Stone the crows

      I suppose you can say there’s nowhere to go but up at this point. If they get their new nose and wing on the car at Sepang and get some useful practice time in they could make the 107 percent rule. But it is a brutal spiral that much better teams (such as Williams) have been battling for decades: i.e., you need money to compete and the less competetive you are the less money you will have.

  4. Marko Kekanovic

    HRT had whole year like every other team to get their car designed, produced and certified in time for winter testing. And they failed, again. They got next chance on Friday – still nothing. See the pattern? I just simply can’t accept that there is lack of founding or no sponsors or even not enough personnel – either you can or can’t make the cut to be in F1. It is that simple. There is no place for excuses in F1. And there is definitely no place for cars that are 10sec behind pol sitter on grid on Sunday. If you can’t deliver what you have signed for when you entered F1, than I suggest you look for another line of work.

  5. jim

    Guess they should have come up with the $$$ to pay Toyota to develop the new car, eh? Reworking last years dog, into an even slower dog doesn’t work very well, even if you use Williams gear box.
    And what was Liuzzi smoking when he decided to take his FI payoff, and buy a ride with HRT?

  6. 4u1e

    Well that’s the problem isn’t it? There’s no money.

    No money to develop the car during the year last year. They had to keep swapping drivers in to get the funding to even complete the season.

    No money to pay Toyota for their car, so Cologne pulled out.

    No money to do anything than a rushed update of last years car. And it sounds like no money to make sure all the parts were supplied in good time.

    So I tend to agree that there are no extenuating circumstances. There just isn’t enough funding here to run a team. What on earth would they have done had Bahrain gone ahead?

    They’ll probably be a bit quicker relative to the others in Malaysia (assuming they make it), because at least they’ll have the chance to make use of the practice sessions to get a handle on the car. But they’re a long way behind Virgin. And d’Ambrosio wasn’t that far inside the 107% himself.

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